Why did Tenshinhan seem to forget Super Saiyan?

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Why did Tenshinhan seem to forget Super Saiyan?
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SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 03:11 PM Post #1
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	He was there when Goku returned from Yardrat, and saw him and a Trunks as Super Saiyans. Fast forward to three years later and he says something like, "so this is what Super Saiyan is like!" Bad writing?



+ Clearin	Oct 29 2014, 03:19 PM Post #2
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	The exact quote is: Chapter 340 (DBZ 146), P13.1-2 Tenshinhan: “Wh-what a ki! Amazing…! S-so this is Goku as a Super Saiyan…?!” Piccolo: “…” In my opinion he's not talking about Super Saiyan itself, merely Goku's strength as a Super Saiyan, which would obviously be much stronger than three years prior. Edit: I think I got the wrong quote. It's this one, right? Tenshinhan: ”In-incredible…What strength…S-so that’s a Super Saiyan…He’s in a completely different dimension than we are…Too different…” Maybe this is to do with this quote: Yamcha: “Wh…what ki…and he’s not even fighting…” Since Tien has never seen SSj Goku fight before, it's the first time he's felt the full effect of the transformation? Edited by Clearin, Oct 29 2014, 03:22 PM.



SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 03:22 PM Post #3
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Yeah the second one is the correct one I think. It just seems weird, doesn't it? Edit: Possibly, but then Piccolo commented on how weak he actually was. He's obviously still stronger than Yardrat Goku, but I don't think it should be by much. Maybe Tenshinhan has bad memory. Edit2: that's a possibility again, but still very weird. It's at least implied that SSJ Goku from Yardrat was stronger than SSJ Trunks. Nobody commented on Trunks using his resting ki then when he went at Goku. Edited by SSJ, Oct 29 2014, 03:25 PM.



+ Emmeth	Oct 29 2014, 03:26 PM Post #4
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	They were pretty far away when Goku and Trunks were talking and playing super heroes. I dunno, maybe having a third eye doesn't have any advantages anymore.
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* Ketchup Revenge	Oct 29 2014, 03:38 PM Post #5
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Yea, I wouldn't really call Goku and Trunks's little scuffle an actual fight, simply a display. Goku vs 19 was the first time that Tenshinhan legitimately saw a Super Saiyan in action. He can sense ki, but it's different seeing it up close. Similar to Goku not knowing if he could beat Cell until he saw him fight. Your ki level is not an indicator of your actual fighting ability, it's simply an indicator of how much power you have.
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Alex D. Boss	Oct 29 2014, 06:22 PM Post #6
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Maybe its a hint of Sick SSJ Goku > SSJ Goku yardrat, but AT wrote it poorly.



+ Clearin	Oct 29 2014, 06:26 PM Post #7
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Don Alex Oct 29 2014, 06:22 PM Maybe its a hint of Sick SSJ Goku > SSJ Goku yardrat, but AT wrote it poorly. Was that ever a thing that people really believed otherwise?



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:02 PM Post #8
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	I just think Tien was refering to the power Sick SSJ Goku had, which implies that Android Saga Sick SSJ Goku > SSJ Yadrat Goku.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:11 PM Post #9
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	He didnt forget about it, he was just impressed about how strong that goku is who might or might not be stronger than his pre timeskip self Edited by Pointer, Oct 29 2014, 08:12 PM.



+ Pyrus	Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Post #10
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Was the comment said before or after Goku started fighting?
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SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 08:18 PM Post #11
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Before.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:21 PM Post #12
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:11 PM He didnt forget about it, he was just impressed about how strong that goku is who might or might not be stronger than his pre timeskip self If he wasnt stronger then its bad writing, to be impressed like that implies Sick Goku is stronger.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:22 PM Post #13
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:21 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:11 PM He didnt forget about it, he was just impressed about how strong that goku is who might or might not be stronger than his pre timeskip self If he wasnt stronger then its bad writing, to be impressed like that implies Sick Goku is stronger. Tenshinhan didnt witnessed the full power of pre timeskip SSj goku....do not forget that



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:27 PM Post #14
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:22 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:21 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:11 PM He didnt forget about it, he was just impressed about how strong that goku is who might or might not be stronger than his pre timeskip self If he wasnt stronger then its bad writing, to be impressed like that implies Sick Goku is stronger. Tenshinhan didnt witnessed the full power of pre timeskip SSj goku....do not forget that I dont quite remeber this part of the manga, mind providing me evidence Goku was not at full power then?
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:29 PM Post #15
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:27 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:22 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:21 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:11 PM He didnt forget about it, he was just impressed about how strong that goku is who might or might not be stronger than his pre timeskip self If he wasnt stronger then its bad writing, to be impressed like that implies Sick Goku is stronger. Tenshinhan didnt witnessed the full power of pre timeskip SSj goku....do not forget that I dont quite remeber this part of the manga, mind providing me evidence Goku was not at full power then? I cant provide the exact quote but Goku said something to Trunks that he was holding back during the "swordfight" and Trunks commented back something like "as you too"



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